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Post by jamnjon on Feb 5, 2023 21:29:11 GMT -8
The pick is Seattle's choice of their own or Colorado's. Probably a decent value and it frees up a contract slot, even though the 50 contract limit isn't too hard to work around.
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Post by kohnsharkosz on Feb 5, 2023 21:58:00 GMT -8
I said fair. Though, considering he came to the org as a career AHL'er, I would say it's a win.
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Post by 408jc1991 on Feb 5, 2023 22:36:37 GMT -8
I feel like the sharks would have had more value holding on to him considering their defensemen situation. He’s cheap and he’s reliable if not unimpressive. I understand wanting to get picks but I guess we’re starting to see that the sharks are selling early to probably get a better draft position. I still feel like kraken won out on this, not because he’s so good but because we are dealing from a position of weakness overall; especially if the thought by management is that the sharks just need a re-tool. Otherwise I think it’s a fine trade. Nothing to lose sleep over.
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Post by kohnsharkosz on Feb 6, 2023 9:26:52 GMT -8
^You don't think there will be hella Megna types available as UFA's this off season? Sure, he's a known quantity and Seattle will have a solid utility guy, but a 4th for a guy signed for free and even cleared waivers in the initial campaign for the Sharks? That's great return for a rebuilding team.
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Post by unshorkable on Feb 6, 2023 9:43:36 GMT -8
I said fair. Though, considering he came to the org as a career AHL'er, I would say it's a win. The only thing making me hesitate to call it an outright win is that D-pairing chemistry seems to be very real, and Megna worked well with Karl. I saw many times when Karl and Megna were going to retrieve a puck in their zone that Karl would let up and Megna would step on it to get the puck, even when Karl was closer. I think Megna very much understood his role as support for Karl. His reward was to play in the NHL at all, and to regularly be bedazzled by the future HOFer. |
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Post by dg93 on Feb 6, 2023 18:18:04 GMT -8
Greetings folks, and this is a solid trade. Another mid-round pick in a deep draft while selling high on a 30yo bottom-pairing defenseman.
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Post by 408jc1991 on Feb 6, 2023 20:01:11 GMT -8
^You don't think there will be hella Megna types available as UFA's this off season? Sure, he's a known quantity and Seattle will have a solid utility guy, but a 4th for a guy signed for free and even cleared waivers in the initial campaign for the Sharks? That's great return for a rebuilding team. You’re right. |
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Post by unshorkable on Feb 7, 2023 0:52:05 GMT -8
Greetings folks, and this is a solid trade. Another mid-round pick in a deep draft while selling high on a 30yo bottom-pairing defenseman. Greetings! Good to see you here! Good to see lots of familiar names! |
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Post by dilacerated on Feb 7, 2023 12:01:51 GMT -8
I said fair. Though, considering he came to the org as a career AHL'er, I would say it's a win. The only thing making me hesitate to call it an outright win is that D-pairing chemistry seems to be very real, and Megna worked well with Karl. I saw many times when Karl and Megna were going to retrieve a puck in their zone that Karl would let up and Megna would step on it to get the puck, even when Karl was closer. I think Megna very much understood his role as support for Karl. His reward was to play in the NHL at all, and to regularly be bedazzled by the future HOFer. Yeah but EK65 has one foot out the door regardless of what he's saying. That said with Knyzhov coming back EK65 will likely have him to fill Megna's void. |
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Post by unshorkable on Feb 8, 2023 2:40:08 GMT -8
The only thing making me hesitate to call it an outright win is that D-pairing chemistry seems to be very real, and Megna worked well with Karl. I saw many times when Karl and Megna were going to retrieve a puck in their zone that Karl would let up and Megna would step on it to get the puck, even when Karl was closer. I think Megna very much understood his role as support for Karl. His reward was to play in the NHL at all, and to regularly be bedazzled by the future HOFer. Yeah but EK65 has one foot out the door regardless of what he's saying. That said with Knyzhov coming back EK65 will likely have him to fill Megna's void. Good points on both. It’ll be sad to see Karl go, but devastating if he can’t be moved. I mean, I admit I still indulge a meager hope that he’ll stay and continue to perform to a standard where he benefits the Sharks for years to come, salary notwithstanding! |
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Post by NashvilleShark on Feb 8, 2023 10:52:01 GMT -8
The only thing making me hesitate to call it an outright win is that D-pairing chemistry seems to be very real, and Megna worked well with Karl. I saw many times when Karl and Megna were going to retrieve a puck in their zone that Karl would let up and Megna would step on it to get the puck, even when Karl was closer. I think Megna very much understood his role as support for Karl. His reward was to play in the NHL at all, and to regularly be bedazzled by the future HOFer. Yeah but EK65 has one foot out the door regardless of what he's saying. That said with Knyzhov coming back EK65 will likely have him to fill Megna's void. Sadly, I tend to agree with you on Karl. I felt early on that his elevated play was his way of "playing his way off of the team". He's done himself and SJ a favor by keeping up his pace. He and his contract are now a bit more palatable for teams making a legit Cup run. It's just a matter of how much retention SJ is willing to carry. If getting the Cup is Karl's top priority, then I just don't see him wanting to stick around in SJ. |
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Post by jamnjon on Feb 8, 2023 13:31:49 GMT -8
I was listening to 32 thoughts and someone asked an interesting question. For teams with concerns about the long term consequences of Karlsson's cap, could the Sharks trade him to a team and include future considerations in the price to the team with the future considerations being them trading him back at the end of the year. Essentially get some assets in exchange for loaning him to a team so that he can get a chance to play for a cup, the other team increases their odds of winning this year, and the Sharks get him back for future seasons. They didn't mention it on the podcast, but there is a bit of precedent for it. John Tucker was traded on January 5, 1990 to the Capitals for future considerations. The result of those future considerations was him being returned to the Sabres on July 5, 1990. He was then traded on January 21, 1991 to the Islanders for future considerations which ended up being nothing. John Tucker trade page on trade tracker |
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Post by 408jc1991 on Feb 8, 2023 15:19:40 GMT -8
I was listening to 32 thoughts and someone asked an interesting question. For teams with concerns about the long term consequences of Karlsson's cap, could the Sharks trade him to a team and include future considerations in the price to the team with the future considerations being them trading him back at the end of the year. Essentially get some assets in exchange for loaning him to a team so that he can get a chance to play for a cup, the other team increases their odds of winning this year, and the Sharks get him back for future seasons. They didn't mention it on the podcast, but there is a bit of precedent for it. John Tucker was traded on January 5, 1990 to the Capitals for future considerations. The result of those future considerations was him being returned to the Sabres on July 5, 1990. He was then traded on January 21, 1991 to the Islanders for future considerations which ended up being nothing. John Tucker trade page on trade trackerI have had this same thought. Maybe get some picks based on performance also. That would be awesome. Haha |
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