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Post by sonofsnowshower2 on Feb 21, 2023 13:01:53 GMT -8
ESPN ticker stat. Sharks are 5-0 when they score 3+ goals in the second period. I'd question if there's a team that's lost a game doing that. Pretty rare Yeah, that's like the "2 or fewer" that Brownie & Brodie used to joke about. If you're holding your opponent to 2 or fewer, the odds of winning are pretty good.
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Post by sonofsnowshower2 on Feb 21, 2023 13:08:37 GMT -8
Sort of OT, young woman in my office went to the Sabres game -- second game she's ever gone to, she's hooked. She sees that it's a whole different experience being at the game. Has trouble following the puck, but that'll come. She's amazed by the physical punishment, wondering if teams have physical therapists on their staffs, how do the players take a beating like they do, etc. But she's totally blown away by the speed and skating skills at the NHL level. Interesting to hear someone new to the game talk about it. My 98 year old mother-in-law had a similar reaction when I was watching a Sharks-Yotes game at her house in AZ back before the pandemic - for her, she was amazed by the skating and artistry of the players. People come to like the game for different reasons. But like someone here says, they stay for the frustration...
Just looked it up - SurfCity says that.
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Post by caopine on Feb 21, 2023 13:08:47 GMT -8
"there have been many chances where he’s super close"-- I had that thought too before his goal when he hit the post. I don't have a strong feeling that Gregor will turn into a better scorer but just to continue your point: -his lack of finish really stands out because of his speed which gives him more breakaways or pseudo-breakaways than other players. -in a lot of those situations, I think by the time he is free of the D, he is in too tight to the goalie. This is by memory and I welcome someone with a better memory or heatmaps etc.
But yeah both his goal and his post shots looked good. Or, he scored because... Martin Jones.
I totally agree on both points. I’ve definitely observed that he’ll be in tight on some of his partials. I think a player with his skill who is less desperate to score might make a move. He seems to just try to get off a quick shot every time. But, watching him stick handle at his speed against other skaters tells me he is in fact capable of making a move against the goalie. And to further note the similarities of wavelengths that we’re on, I don’t have great confidence at all that Gregor will turn it around. But I’m still not entirely jaded with his lack of finish up to this point, and believe that he can turn it around. Will he? And just as intriguing to me, what would his ceiling would be? If he could salvage his god awful shot percentage, maybe a 15-20 goal guy on a pretty decent third line?
Hopefully last game encourages Gregor to start shooting from further out. His whole career was probably- use your speed to get to net. And the finish stopped working in the NHL. 15 goals would be great.
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Post by caopine on Feb 21, 2023 13:15:45 GMT -8
Sort of OT, young woman in my office went to the Sabres game -- second game she's ever gone to, she's hooked. She sees that it's a whole different experience being at the game. Has trouble following the puck, but that'll come. She's amazed by the physical punishment, wondering if teams have physical therapists on their staffs, how do the players take a beating like they do, etc. But she's totally blown away by the speed and skating skills at the NHL level. Interesting to hear someone new to the game talk about it. My 98 year old mother-in-law had a similar reaction when I was watching a Sharks-Yotes game at her house in AZ back before the pandemic - for her, she was amazed by the skating and artistry of the players. People come to like the game for different reasons. But like someone here says, they stay for the frustration...
Just looked it up - SurfCity says that.
That is great. It's been a while since I've been to the Tank (not true- we all visit the Tank almost every game!), errr, I mean SAP center. But there is nothing like the speed and hitting being there.
One of my favorite things being there in person is being able to watch players off the puck. You can't always get that perspective with the tv camera field of view- all the work that goes in watching a smart player like Pavs creating space, finding soft spots, watching which way they glance to anticipate the play.
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Post by caopine on Feb 21, 2023 13:19:29 GMT -8
Jones, can't win with him, can't lose without him. On the serious side, three of those goals were stoppable. Cooch's was classic Jones. That only surprise about that brain fart on Cooch's (I can't think of what else to call it) was that it was half way through the game and not in the first minute. We're 4th in point% now. I can't see us catching the Hawks, BJ's or Ducks. Their goal differential is abominable, so much so that a team would really have to try to lose to get down that low. By that I mean that the guys on the ice would have to dump games -- which would (and should) end their careers. By way of tanking, I think the way to go is for GMMG to bring up the most average guys on the Cuda and let them flounder around (couldn't resist the pun).
What was classic MJ about that was that up to that point which was past the halfway point in the game, the Sharks only had seven shots total and I think one in the 2nd period. Even if he had made great saves the rest of the way, he just had those soft spirit-breaking goals against at the wrong time. I actually kind of felt bad for him.
I was never a Jones fan- not even in 2016. But still, will never forget his 56? save performance in Game 6 when the Sharks had nothing going on that set up the epic Game 7 vs FV.
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Post by tcsharkie11 on Feb 21, 2023 13:38:48 GMT -8
Trade Rumor. Armstrong uses the picks to get Timo to St. Louis plus players
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Post by NB Finfan on Feb 21, 2023 16:12:59 GMT -8
I didn't get a chance to watch the game till earlier today. My thoughts are both teams were lethargic through most of the game. The difference in my opinion was the net minders. MJ is not good enough to win without run support. He has 23 wins this year but his save percentage is well under 900.
On Gregor I do think, as some of you pointed out, his speed does hinder his goal production to a small degree. When you close in on the goalie as quickly as he can it does cut down your angle so there is less net to find. It has the same effect as a goalie coming out to cut down the angle. So yes, shooting sooner may help him. But I also think he needs to add some deception to his shot to create confusion in the goalies mind.
And the last thing I have to offer on this subject is if I remember correctly he was the Cuda's leading scorer till he was called up to the Show. So maybe his lack of scoring has gotten to his head a little. Meaning when you start thinking thoughts like, "I can't miss this shot", that's when you miss the shot. This is doubt creeping in your game instead of confidence taking over.
Last thing is, I am glad Donato didn't score. He was such a bust for the Sharks when he was here but has been a thorn in their side since he left.
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Post by SurfCitySharksFan on Feb 21, 2023 20:31:45 GMT -8
Chicago beat FV tonight and Vancouver got a loser point against NSH. Unfortunately, the Ducks struck out with no points against TB.
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Post by tcsharkie11 on Feb 22, 2023 6:47:34 GMT -8
43rd Anniversary of USA defeating CCCP in Lake Placid today
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Post by SurfCitySharksFan on Feb 22, 2023 8:14:58 GMT -8
43rd Anniversary of USA defeating CCCP in Lake Placid today USA! USA!
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Post by bellizar on Feb 22, 2023 15:10:38 GMT -8
Trade Rumor. Armstrong uses the picks to get Timo to St. Louis plus players Thas good thing but Armstrong needs to give up their own pick in those firsts.
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Post by SurfCitySharksFan on Feb 22, 2023 21:19:40 GMT -8
Chicago beat Dallas tonight in regulation. They are now just 2 points above (below) the Sharks. The 3rd spot is getting close.
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Post by seiched on Feb 22, 2023 21:39:37 GMT -8
Chicago beat Dallas tonight in regulation. They are now just 2 points above (below) the Sharks. The 3rd spot is getting close. Kane is playing hard to get himself a trade...but hopefully no where Timo or EK65 can go...
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Post by briancpalmer on Feb 22, 2023 22:24:05 GMT -8
Chicago beat Dallas tonight in regulation. They are now just 2 points above (below) the Sharks. The 3rd spot is getting close. This is why I've been saying for weeks now that CHI can and should surpass us with ease. I knew AZ would, and this would get us down to third if CHI can finish the job in short order. If we can have a full-on selloff at the deadline, then maybe we can catch ANA and/or CBJ--my money would be on ANA--but even then probably not both, simply because we are waiting until the absolute last minute to do all of this, which means we've missed out (and will continue to miss out for a few more games) on a chance to tumble even further in the standings sooner and more easily. A quick question on draft number for playoff teams: In each round, after all the losers have been eliminated, are they ordered from highest (in terms of picking higher in the order) to lowest based on regular-season point totals (those with lower point totals being ranked higher in the draft order)? Or do they do it some other way? I've never really looked into this...
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Post by jamnjon on Feb 22, 2023 23:19:20 GMT -8
A quick question on draft number for playoff teams: In each round, after all the losers have been eliminated, are they ordered from highest (in terms of picking higher in the order) to lowest based on regular-season point totals (those with lower point totals being ranked higher in the draft order)? Or do they do it some other way? I've never really looked into this... Teams that make the playoffs, do not make the conference finals, and didn't win their division are given picks starting at number 17 based on the reverse of the regular season standings. They are followed by teams that won their divisions that didn't make the conference finals, again in reverse of their regular season standings. Teams that lose in the conference finals are given picks 29 and 30 based on regular season standings, the cup runner up picks 31st and the cup winner picks 32nd.
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